Alittle Confused Regarding Mailman Mail List

durangod

• December 01, 2019 00:25

Hi, i watched the cPanelTV videos on mailman and maillist. But i am still a bit confused. Where is the link to the html page where people can sign up? I see the edit html pages link in cPanel but i dont see anything that shows me what url someone can go to in order to subscribe. I am considering changing over from phpList to cPanel mail list feature but so far its sort of frustrating that the information i need was not mentioned in the videos or on the mail list creation or mailman. Maybe this works different than phpList and its not what i need, i dont know yet, still learning? Maybe this is "just" for managing lists and nothing more? I guess the video assumes someone knows what a list is for? Can someone point me to where i can find whatever url there is to the subscribe page of a cPanel mail list? Thanks :)

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  cPanelLauren

  • December 02, 2019 19:15

  Hi @durangod When you're logged into the Mailman interface for a mailing list, you can go to the "General List Information Page". This is where users can manage their subscriptions to the list. You can modify the available data here from the "Edit the Public HTML pages and text files" section in the mailing list administration options. By default it configures something similar to the following: http://mail.domain.tld/mailman/listinfo/mailtesting_domain.tld
  Where my list is called mailtesting.

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  durangod

  • December 02, 2019 23:30

  Thanks Lauren... I appreciate the info, but sadly after commenting out much of the html that i dont need there are parts of the page that i cannot edit and so i dont believe it will work for me. I dont need to give members passwords or let them edit stuff, i just needed the subscription form part. However as i said there are buttons i cant edit, text i cant edit, and footers i cant edit as they must be in another file somewhere. I was hoping to not use phpList as i feel its coding is just not up to current standards, its a very old script and still uses much of the html 1.0 way of coding which is not good. And i would attempt to edit more files with mailman if (as i hoped) that the code was more current. However after looking at the html of mailman, it is no different than phpList in that regard. They dont use css and remove the style from html, again it is html 1.0 all over again (it says 4.01 but they didnt even use any benefits of that html). And actually phpList has the advantage of providing a more powerful admin ui to edit forms and even gives default (formatted) pages to subscribe and other pages and mailman does not. So the lessor of both evils is going to be phpList for now. However i assume if i need further support for mailman to play around with it a bit, i would need to go to the mailman forum correct? I assume cPanel only supports basic features and everything else needs to be asked of mailman directly, would that be correct? UPDATE: well it does not appear that a mailman forum at the mailman domain exists... hmmmm Also i just had a brainy idea, i can do my own custom input tags for buttons as long as i use the correct input name by looking at the page source... ill give it a shot... ") Ii would certainly prefer to use something internal to cPanel that something outside it... i just hope i can edit enough to make mailman work for me. :) Thanks

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  durangod

  • December 03, 2019 03:12

  OK one issue might be the version of cPanel and Mailman my current host is running. The cPanel version is 78.0 (build 44) and the Mailman version is 2.1.27 There are some new templates with the currrent version of Mailman that could make what i am doing much easier. The latest stable version of Mailman is 3.2.1 so someone is way behind, either the host has not updated cPanel or cPanel has not updated Mailman. Actually Mailman shows this on their site: [QUOTE] 22-Feb-2019 Mailman 3.2.1 (La Villa Strangiato) 24-Jul-2018 Mailman 2.1.29
  And cPanel latest release was on Oct 7th, 2018 Version 84. So first that means that my host has not updated cPanel in a while. But the new version of cPanel should (considering the dates of releases) have either 2.1.29 or 3.2.1 of Mailman. What version of Mailman comes with the latest version of cPanel?

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  durangod

  • December 03, 2019 05:06

  First i apologize for the seperate replies in a row here, it helps me to manage my thoughts, i am not doing it to bump anything, you have my word on that. With that said this will probably be the last reply on this topic unless i can be convinced to keep this IMO hunk of junk called mailman. I referred to it as that because i just got done watching this video

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  cPanelLauren

  • December 05, 2019 23:37

  I appreciate the info, but sadly after commenting out much of the html that i dont need there are parts of the page that i cannot edit and so i dont believe it will work for me. I dont need to give members passwords or let them edit stuff, i just needed the subscription form part. However as i said there are buttons i cant edit, text i cant edit, and footers i cant edit as they must be in another file somewhere.

  
  The passwords are required to subscribe to the list so that the subscription can be modified by users The footer is in the file as:
  And i can confirm that I was able to successfully remove it: In fact, to test whether or not I could fully remove everything I deleted all the data in the file and confirmed that I received a blank page.

  However i assume if i need further support for mailman to play around with it a bit, i would need to go to the mailman forum correct? I assume cPanel only supports basic features and everything else needs to be asked of mailman directly, would that be correct?

  
  We can help with most things mailman related but if you want to talk to them they have a mailing list!

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