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Heads Up! Legacy Backups are no longer running!

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  • hmaddy
    Deprecated the Legacy Backup system in cPanel & WHM version 64 and its removed in cPanel & WHM version 80.
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  • schoeps
    yes, but you can add them, back, I think the triggers were removed from the global cron
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  • schoeps
    yes, but you can add them, back, I think the triggers were removed from the global cron

    They were removed... GRRRR
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  • cPanelLauren
    This was done in edge 90 Change Log | cPanel & WHM Documentation
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  • schoeps
    why. There are many users that use that system and the current backup system lacks an alternate scheduling. For folks that may not read the change logs, you could potentially be giving a false sense of security. I understand that you are moving away form this system, but there should be a suitable replacement in place, I have been relying on it for over 8 years on 20+ servers!
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  • cPanelLauren
    I see two separate cases related to this being removed CPANEL-32780 and CPANEL-32945 - both of which are resolved in v90 removing the cron for the legacy backup system. Both cases are noted here:
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  • schoeps
    I understand, oh well. Spent a good bit of yesterday working on the AWS S3 integration on a couple of boxes to find some random :Unable to send "/backup/2020-08-11/accounts/xxxx.gz" to destination "AWS S3 Bucket":" Oh well.
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  • cPanelLauren
    The backup transport logs should provide you with further details on what occurred there. You can find them at /usr/local/cpanel/logs/cpbackup_transporter/
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  • plague
    Hello @cPanelLauren Now that the legacy system has been wiped out, how can we avoid the new system requiring double the disk space for cpanel backup? Is there a way to accomplish the same behavior as the legacy backup in the new backup (removing the account old backup BEFORE the new one is created)? I mean, if you have 1TB backups you need a 2TB disk, because in the second day the second backup will consume another 1TB until it finishes and the old backup is removed. I know that Incremental backups can solve that, but incremental backup is too limited when it comes to remote destinations.
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  • schoeps
    It's probably one of the most important features and it's a mess. I get a feeling they would rather push "JetBackup" than just address some simple to implement concepts like what you had mentioned or just adding schedules to the remote backups.
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  • cPanelLauren
    Hey guys, I have something of a workaround for you for now, but I cannot stress it enough, that the Legacy system is going away and you must be looking at alternatives. The space issue is not something that is going to be changed in the current backup system from what I understand after speaking to the product owner for that feature. The workaround to use the legacy system would be the following: echo "BACKUPENABLE yes" > /etc/cpbackup.conf
    And re-add the cron to the cron manager. It was just the cron that was removed not the actual code for the legacy backup system. I do hope that helps for now, but this is not a permanent solution.
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  • schoeps
    even if you re-add the code, the cron deletes it.
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  • plague
    even if you re-add the code, the cron deletes it.

    Same here, the legacy backup is working but upcp is removing it's cron entry and readding the new backup cron. I just added "/scripts/cpbackup" on a /etc/cron.d/ cron file as a workaround.
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  • unco
    From Lauren: "The current backup system has been in place for some time now and if it is not suitable or does not meet your needs I'd not only urge you to explain what it is, it doesn't do but also open a feature request for it using the link in my signature." I know this is an old thread, but I find legacy backups very useful because I back them up to a cloud-based system that keeps several versions. If I need to to restore a backup, it's really easy to do so from my cloud backup system. But, as long as pkgacct is available, I can use that and send those cp move files to the cloud.
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