Horde removal in version 108
Horde support will be removed from cPanel & WHM starting with Version 108. This is because Horde does not support PHP 8.x, and PHP 7.4 reaches End of Life in November 2022.
What does this mean for me or my customers that use Horde?
Our Webmail offering will be focused on Roundcube going forward. Your email will be available in Roundcube just as it is in Horde today.
What do I need to do to prepare for this?
Nothing currently. We are currently working on tools that will migrate current Horde calendar and contacts data to Roundcube and Roundcube + CCS. We will have more information available once those tools are ready.
What about my calendars and contacts?
We will be providing migration tools that will help Horde users move to Roundcube. We will have more information on those at a later date.
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@Mrg - originally we didn't intend for that banner to be hidden so the maximum number of users could see it. However, we do have case HB-6575 open with our team to make it dismissable, although I'm not sure when that will be applied to a public cPanel build. 0 -
ok, as a quick fix we change the text by locale file change. it is neccessary because many of our customers are very confused due we do not use horde. 0 -
@cPRex - We are in the process of migrating from one server to another. We have provisioned the new server and run an initial transfer using the transfer tool. Last night the new server updated to 108.0.14 (Horde removed and all contacts etc migrated). The old server is still on 106.0.18. We plan to complete a final full migration over the weekend. When we complete the migration will the process of migrating the Horde email, contacts, and calendars to Roundcube be an automated process (does it run periodically, if so when?) or was that a one time process that was completed when the new server updated itself? If it will not be run again automatically is there any way to run it manually so I can force the migration from Horde->Roundcube after the transfer tool completes? Are there any other issues that you might be aware of with regards to Horde/Roundcube when migrating from a server still at 106 to a server that has already updated to 108 and removed Horde? 0 -
I don't think that is going to work, WHM -> cPanel -> Upgrade to Latest Version, and check " Force a reinstall even if the system is up to date " in the old server. That should upgrade the old server to 108. 0 -
ok, as a quick fix we change the text by locale file change. it is neccessary because many of our customers are very confused due we do not use horde.
Agreed. I think for those that already have Horde disabled globally, the notification should not appear or at least be permanently dismissible.0 -
Thanks @quietFinn, will do. 0 -
@Mrg - originally we didn't intend for that banner to be hidden so the maximum number of users could see it. However, we do have case HB-6575 open with our team to make it dismissable, although I'm not sure when that will be applied to a public cPanel build.
Thanks to @stormy posting advice how to get rid of the "Horde webmail application has been removed" banner in this other thread - Disable Jupiter welcome screen In /var/cpanel/customizations/content_includes/ I simply created the file cpanel_jupiter_head.html.tt and added the following code to it:
And finally no more "Horde webmail application has been removed" when logging into user cPanel accounts. :) Questions for @cPRex - do you think this is unsafe or may cause a problem when cPanel adds the dismissable option in a future release? Would I need to delete the cpanel_jupiter_head.html.tt file that I created at some point?0 -
I don't see how that would cause issues so it should be fine to leave it. 0 -
Regarding the warning "The Horde webmail application has been removed ...", I am currently (version 108.0.15) getting the notice again on each fresh login. The "x" (close banner) button has a title attribute that says "Hide Permanently". BUT, on my system, this JavaScript function attached to the "dismissHordeIcon" div seems to set a session cookie instead of a permanent cookie? So the notice continues to appear for cPanel user accounts on each fresh login/logout. This seems like a bug separate from the other issues about cPanel throwing misleading notifications about Horde to all users? Like others in this thread, I would also like to be able to disable the notice for all users automatically. Especially because the server that this is on NEVER ever even had Horde installed! 0 -
The "x" (close banner) button has a title attribute that says "Hide Permanently".
Same here in WHM and also still in cPanel > Email Accounts > Check Email The X says "Hide Permanently", but it's definitely not permanent. Comes back every time, so yes I'm also guessing session/cookie based. (I keep my FireFox and Edge set to automatically clear cookies & cache when I exit the browser... great feature that Chrome is missing).0 -
> When upgrading to Version 108, the server will automatically copy the data from Horde into Roundcube Does the automatic migration work fine on accounts over quota? 0 -
Yes, I wouldn't expect there to be problems on accounts with quota issues. 0 -
Is there any update or new method to disable the horde removed notice for all users automatically? Currently on v110. 0 -
The developers have decided they didn't want to make this an option that users can disable, so it doesn't look like that will happen. The notice is removed in version 112, which is making its way through the tiers right now. 0 -
The developers have decided they didn't want to make this an option that users can disable, so it doesn't look like that will happen. The notice is removed in version 112, which is making its way through the tiers right now.
Do you know the ETA for 112 for RELEASE tier?0 -
Within the next few weeks would be my expectation. 0 -
@radeonpower - unfortunately, no - the developers did not intend for this notification to be permanently removed. 0 -
A cPanel support ticket is prob. going to get your fastest resolution. 0 -
Hey @CFF volly, I would recommend opening a ticket with our team so they can take a closer look into the issue with server access. Or, if you don't have root access to the server, you can open a ticket with your Hosting Provider so they can assist you with recovering the email. 0 -
Hello. How to remove all files/dirs related horde from WHM/cPanel dirs as cPanel accounts? Thank you. 0 -
Greetings: I am in no way a techie, but a business owner who built his site on Joomla and uses Hostgator; my situation is Hostgator switch my site to a cPanel 110.12 version, and I lost access to having a calendar which I can sync with my native computer mail apps (Apple Mail and BusyCal); it took me over 2 months chatting with Hostgator to find out what the problem was (again, I am not a techie), and all Hostgator tells me is to "wait" and see if cPanel adds the calendar/contact back in. I am hoping someone can give me any guidance on what I can do; the Roundcube calendar is "read" only, so it doesn't sync with my Apple Mail; Apple tells me to make sure I can get access to a "CalDAV Server" info. Any help or guidance would be appreciated. 0 -
@timpennington - the server admin would need to install the tools in order for you to use them, but it seems like they have not done that. Because you are on a shared server, they may not want the application on there. Details on what needs to be installed can be found here - How to Set Up Calendars and Contacts | cPanel & WHM Documentation 0 -
Thank you; I suspected that HostGator was not adding it, and yet they keep telling me the issue is with cPanel. It's frustrating because calendar is a central function of my business operations. Thank you for your quick response. I truly just wanted to know whom to ask and then keep asking them. Appreciate the quick response. 0 -
Sure thing! 0
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