CentOS 8 has abruptly been shifted to EOL in 2021. Now what?
To start with, I expect that the cPanel folks will not have an immediate, or even within the month, answer -- I imagine you are as caught off-guard as we are -- and part of my motivation to post is warning other cPanel users of this occurrence.
Now that CentOS has revised the EOL date for CentOS 8 back almost eight years, from May 2029 to December 2021, what will the upgrade path be once CentOS 7 goes EOL in 2024?
I'll admit I went with going to CentOS 7 from 6 in November after holding out, since I needed to be production-ready. I wasn't happy about that, but now I feel like I dodged a bullet.
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This announcement is pretty great, huh? I don't have anything official just yet as we didn't get any additional notice on our end. I imagine there will be some major announcements once we have a plan. 0 -
This could be Centos shooting themselves in the foot for being the standard-bearer for hosting. 0 -
This is obviously a breaking situation. I don't expect "the answer" right now, but I do hope that cPanel will be transparent and collaborative in communicating what it (the company) sees as the way forward. Sysadmins around the world are going to have their work cut out for them. And here I was thinking that cPanel had been dragging their feet on CentOS 8 as a way to nudge users to CloudLinux... maybe they saw the writing on the wall. 0 -
cPanel on Ubuntu? (I know it isn't going to happen, but basically all our other servers are Ubuntu...) 0 -
It would be way simpler for cPanel to switch to Oracle Linux than anything else. Oracle has a conversion script for CentOS 6 and 7 and they are certainly rushing to push one for 8. cPanel already builds several of its packages anyway, so maybe they will just roll their own stable distro on top of CentOS Stream's BaseOS at least for the next few years until RHEL 9 starts taking shape. Time will tell. I really wonder what will happen to CloudLinux 8 though. 0 -
until June 30, 2024. - Updates for the CentOS Linux 6 distribution full RHEL support phase.
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Not that it will prob. go anywhere, but can't hurt: Sign the Petition 0 -
No official reply from cPanel on this yet? 0 -
@JIKOmetrix - I posted everything we know so far earlier in this thread. That's all we've got at this point. 0 -
I just read the plan for Stream 8 is first to get new test packages, last to get security updates after fully tested across RHEL? Yikes. Are they trying to force CentOS out of production environments completely? 0 -
Are they trying to force CentOS out of production environments completely?
Yes. That's exactly it. Their case is that if you want a stable, secure Enterprise Linux environment, pony up for RHEL. The cost is well worth it. That's their argument. Mine may differ.0 -
Two problems with your statement. First FreeBSD is not the only BSD Distro based on Berkley Unix. So you are making a undefendable blanket statement. Second, you provided zero to backup your statement. I would argue that ZFS alone make it more suitable for many servers than any Linux distro out there. You are throwing the baby out with the bath water based on a chosen kernel alone. 0 -
It would be way simpler for cPanel to switch to Oracle Linux than anything else. Oracle has a conversion script for CentOS 6 and 7 and they are certainly rushing to push one for 8.
Not a great solution for a lot of people. For an extreme example, a company I deal with regularly (50,000+ users) received threats from Oracle to sue them for misusing Java and VirtualBox. Neither allegation was true, but the company lawyers announced that they had to block all Oracle products to prevent potential future legal issues.0 -
Not a great solution for a lot of people. For an extreme example, a company I deal with regularly (50,000+ users) received threats from Oracle to sue them for misusing Java and VirtualBox. Neither allegation was true, but the company lawyers announced that they had to block all Oracle products to prevent potential future legal issues.
Sure, personally I wouldn't touch anything Oracle with a 10 foot pole either. It would all boil down to some sort of permissive agreement between cPanel and those people. Anyway, according to Igor's post on WHT it looks like CloudLinux managed to make lemonade out of this situation. Good opportunity for cPanel do drop CentOS and finally marry CloudLinux. :) [QUOTE] My name is Igor Seletskiy. I am CEO/Founder of Cloud Linux Inc. CloudLinux OS has never depended on CentOS". Our software was and continues to be a fork of RedHat" EL. We base our packages on sources provided by RedHat". As such, we don't expect any changes for CloudLinux OS due to the RedHat" announcement. As we already maintain CloudLinux OS, we plan to release a free, open sourced, community driven, 1:1 binary compatible fork of RHEL" 8 (and future releases) in the Q1 of 2021. We will create a separate, totally free OS that is fully binary compatible with RHEL" 8 (and future versions). We will sponsor the development & maintenance of such OS. We will work on establishing a community around the OS, with the governing board from members of the community. Why we are doing it: We have all the infrastructure, software and experience to do that already. We have a large staff of developers and maintainers that have a decade of experience in building a RHEL fork, starting from RHEL5 to RHEL8 We expect that this project will put us on the map, and allow people to discover our rebootless update software ( What will we do to make sure that we don't go wrong: We plan to make all the build and test software free, open sourced, easy to set up, so if we ever go in the wrong direction - the community can just pick up where we left off. What it means for you: If you are running CloudLinux OS 8 -- it will continue to have stable and well tested updates until 2029, and ELS releases for years after that. If you are running CentOS 8 - we will release an OS very similar to CentOS 8 based on RHEL 8 stable. We will provide stable and well tested updates until 2029 - totally free. You will be able to convert from CentOS 8 at any moment by running a single command that switches repositories & keys. Timeline: Q1 2021
SOURCE: Page 3 | The end of CentOS | Web Hosting Talk0 -
The creator of CentOS is planning something new: Meet Rocky Linux: New RHEL Fork by the Original CentOS Creator 0 -
I know this is slightly off-topic, but where in the world did that name come from? Rocky is often a synonym for troubled. Why would you use an operating system called "Troubled Linux"?
For a different article, it's the first name of another person on the project.0 -
While I respect what CloudLinux is doing and I think they have a valid place in the ecosystem, I strongly disagree that cPanel should somehow "get married" to CL. Not every server (or server administrator) needs the added cost of support and features that CloudLinux provides. cPanel is already expensive enough on its own these days, and I think our smaller customers are going to dry up if forced to also add additional cost for a required OS. I understand that CloudLinux is offering a free, open-source 1:1 "bug for bug" replacement to CentOS 8. Time will tell if that plan holds and they continue to feel that fits with their business plans. 0 -
I would LOVE to see cPanel on FreeBSD. Obviously not everyones cup of tea but perhaps now is the time to de-couple from a specific flavor of Linux in favor of more than one OS option? 0 -
It took well over a year for cPanel to have support for centos 8. Not that is dead. Please tell me you plan to support Cloud Linux(New Free OS Name) and Rocky Linux on day 1 of there release assuming there 1 for 1 bug release promise is meet. I was in progress to sunsetting my old webserver and planed to deploy new one next week to my Colo. Now I have to switch the os to 7 from 8 deploy it and pray the support above can be done asap as I fully expect CentOS 7 will have the same death as CentOS8 just did. Please have this supported ASAP migrate to RockyLinux8 or CloudLinux8-Free asap. Should you wish to request support for new forks (and current) please let cPanel know. Oracle Linux Support Request Cloud Linux Support Request 0 -
cPanel used to support other OS's. While we never used anything other than RH/CentOS/CL it was a nightmare for cPanel. 0 -
I would LOVE to see cPanel on FreeBSD. Obviously not everyones cup of tea but perhaps now is the time to de-couple from a specific flavor of Linux in favor of more than one OS option?
How will you make FreeBSD work with Cpanel? ZFS does not have user quotas.0 -
How will you make FreeBSD work with Cpanel? ZFS does not have user quotas.
ZFS absolutely supports user and group quotas. Directadmin supports quotas on FreeBSD so why can't cPanel?0 -
CloudLinux announced their own fork too. Stay assured that there are no dead ends in FOSS. IBM/Redhat cannot cease to provide SRPMS for RHEL as its an OSS project and as long the SRPMS are available, RHEL clone is just a matter of compiling to an RPM I don't see any issues in using CentOS stream too as it will be something sitting between Fedora and RHEL and should be stable enough for most uses. 0
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