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CentOS 8 Official Announcement

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  • galacticpresident
    Hey everyone! I know we've had several threads on this, but I wanted to post this announcement we just released today:
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    @galacticpresident - it's definitely best to use CentOS 7 at this time, as that will have support until 2024.
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  • galacticpresident
    @galacticpresident - it's definitely best to use CentOS 7 at this time, as that will have support until 2024.

    Is there likely to be a further announcement in the near future?
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    What specifically were you looking to find out at this point?
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  • galacticpresident
    What specifically were you looking to find out at this point?

    well, because I am new to all this and huge learning curve ahead for my project, I wanted to avoid if possible the need to shift operating systems later ... I guess it's not a massive problem if I have to, I just want to avoid it if I can ... being on CentOS is advantageous for me, because a good friend of mine is offering technical assistance on my project, and he runs a medical research data centre with another friend of mine, and they have decided ( for now ) to stick with CentOS 7 for the very reasons you've stated, but I am just curious what will happen beyond that when it's only CentOS Stream? I can appreciate that the answer might be "we don't know yet", but was just curious if there is any further information on how this will affect cPanel in the long term?
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    Thanks for the additional details. CentOS 7 would get you at least four years of time with current CentOS/RedHat tools. What happens after that, we can't really say at this point. CloudLinux is also making a port of RedHat that we plan to work closely with, so there wouldn't be any additional knowledge required to use that.
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  • ffeingol
    @galacticpresident The point is actually a bit mute, until there is a Ubuntu version. CentOS is not a 'rolling' release. You can't upgrade from CentOS V7 to CentOS V8, so you have to 'shift operating systems' anyways. WHM has a built in transfer system (which is quite rock solid) so migrating accounts from server to server is pretty painless (with planning).
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  • vacancy
    According to the cpanel statement, cpanel will not support centos stream. Centos 8 will be supported, for this cloudlinux will issue a fork. The centos 8 support, which will officially end in 2021, will be extended to 2029. It has been announced that this will be in the first quarter of 2021. Also, even if you are currently using centos 8, you will still be able to switch to cloudlinux fork. But keep in mind that right now cpanel is in an experimental state for centos 8. After waiting a few months, you can make a new installation with centos 8 and continue. If you don't want to wait, if you say that the situation of Centos 8 is confusing, today Centos 7 will be the best choice. ;)
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  • galacticpresident
    @galacticpresident The point is actually a bit mute, until there is a Ubuntu version. CentOS is not a 'rolling' release. You can't upgrade from CentOS V7 to CentOS V8, so you have to 'shift operating systems' anyways. WHM has a built in transfer system (which is quite rock solid) so migrating accounts from server to server is pretty painless (with planning).

    thanks for the info
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  • galacticpresident
    According to the cpanel statement, cpanel will not support centos stream. Centos 8 will be supported, for this cloudlinux will issue a fork. The centos 8 support, which will officially end in 2021, will be extended to 2029. It has been announced that this will be in the first quarter of 2021. Also, even if you are currently using centos 8, you will still be able to switch to cloudlinux fork. But keep in mind that right now cpanel is in an experimental state for centos 8. After waiting a few months, you can make a new installation with centos 8 and continue. If you don't want to wait, if you say that the situation of Centos 8 is confusing, today Centos 7 will be the best choice. ;)

    thanks
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  • galacticpresident
    Thanks for the additional details. CentOS 7 would get you at least four years of time with current CentOS/RedHat tools. What happens after that, we can't really say at this point. CloudLinux is also making a port of RedHat that we plan to work closely with, so there wouldn't be any additional knowledge required to use that.

    thanks for that, the goal is to stay on our own servers when the project finally matures, so CloudLinux isn't an option, I'll just shift to CentOS 7 ( haven't actually installed cPanel yet, still just doing preparatory work ), and then can decide from there when the time comes I guess.
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    thanks for that, the goal is to stay on our own servers when the project finally matures, so CloudLinux isn't an option

    I just wanted to clarify that CloudLinux is a drop-in replacement for CentOS 6/7, so if you are already using that operating system you don't need to make any changes. Also, CloudLinux will be providing extended support for CentOS 6 which you can read about here:
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  • TheDom
    Can I back out of CloudLinux OS and return to previous OS?
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    Yes - you can remove CloudLinux and go back to CentOS with their uninstall script. You can find more details on that here:
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  • galacticpresident
    I just wanted to clarify that CloudLinux is a drop-in replacement for CentOS 6/7, so if you are already using that operating system you don't need to make any changes. Also, CloudLinux will be providing extended support for CentOS 6 which you can read about here: Rocky Linux Wiki ?
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    I don't personally have any thoughts on that, but cPanel has no plans to support that version. CloudLinux also plans to make their own free version as outlined here:
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  • andrew.n
    CentOS 7 is the best option here atm as it still has support for the next 4 years.
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  • kodeslogic
    @cPRex We understand that it would be too early to commit support to the completely new open source project
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    @kodeslogic - that's the plan! From the release I posted we say this: "We have made the commitment to support the RHEL fork by CloudLinux. More information is available here:
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  • HostXNow_Chris
    @kodeslogic - that's the plan! From the release I posted we say this: "We have made the commitment to support the RHEL fork by CloudLinux. More information is available here:
    Excellent news.
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  • scottrichardson
    Hi guys, I currently run two CentOS 7.9 servers at Amazon AWS, each running WHM/cPanel - which I use to host all of my client's websites and email on. Can anyone point me in the right direction on what I might be able to do, or start planning to do, to ensure my hosting services for my clients are future proof and safe? Or is CentOS 7.9 currently the best / only option, and that a new solution will come soon? I'm mostly concerned with how I would update the OS on these AWS servers without much downtime for my clients. I know this is a more complex question that it at first appears. Many thanks in advance.
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  • kodeslogic
    @scottrichardson Right now CentOS 7 is the best option to stay with as it will be there till June 30, 2024, very soon at end of Q1 expecting the AlmaLinux from the CloudLinux as a replacement of the CentOS. [QUOTE]
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  • wintech2003
    I'm pretty sure that it will be possible to convert a CentOS 8 server to AlmaLinux, so why not start with CentOS 8 right away and convert as soon as it's available?
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  • ffeingol
    @wintech2003 to each his/her own, but CentOS V8 is "new" and cPanel support for V8 is very (very) new. It's mostly your tolerance for bugs and glitches.
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    @scottrichardson - if you are already running CentOS 7, I'd stick with those until for quite a while still :D
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  • asfik
    I have several customers that still using CentOS 6 at this moment. What it the best option at this moment to upgrade the operating system but avoiding extra fee such as using Cloudlinux? 1) Upgrade to CentOS 7.4 until 2024 2) Upgrade to CentOS 8 and then switch to Almalinux when ready and being supported by cPanel 3) any other?
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  • vacancy
    I have several customers that still using CentOS 6 at this moment. What it the best option at this moment to upgrade the operating system but avoiding extra fee such as using Cloudlinux? 1) Upgrade to CentOS 7.4 until 2024 2) Upgrade to CentOS 8 and then switch to Almalinux when ready and being supported by cPanel 3) any other?

    Centos 8 is currently supported by cpanel and is stable. You can set up your new server as centos 8 and then activate the cloudlinux fork. Note that Centos 8 does not support versions below php 7.2.
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  • andrew.n
    As he said he doesn't want to pay CloudLinux then CentOS 7 is still the recommended OS for new servers as it's being supported till 2024 and other options are still in progress.
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    We just, literally minutes ago, pushed this live:
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  • andrew.n
    @cPRex can we move to AlmaLinux from CentOS 7 as well?
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