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  • xpy-xpy
    Looks like a Godaddy - specific issue. Have you tried contacting their support?
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  • TRT
    i contacted them several times and they refuse to help since it's a self managed vps and they don't have access to help.
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  • xpy-xpy
    Two suggestions: 1. Verify that your Smarthost SMTP Relay is configured correctly, as per your host's instructions:
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    Is this happening with all emails, or only when sending to certain addresses?
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  • TRT
    Two suggestions: 1. Verify that your Smarthost SMTP Relay is configured correctly, as per your host's instructions:

    Yes the smart host is correct and we're pointing the right relay server for the current data center. The old one was a different relay server. I am trying to contact godaddy to verify the details of the settings but that section has not been touched and it was working on the old data center.
    Is this happening with all emails, or only when sending to certain addresses?

    It's happening to all emails that are bound outside the localdomains. The thing is if you check the log everything seems find until our VPS sends the message followed by the "." to indicate end of message. That's where the server hang for ~ 5 minutes waiting for a reply from the relay server which just closes the connection without any response code or anything
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    Since there is a smarthost involved, it would make sense to investigate there, or is the mail not even reaching the smarthost?
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  • TRT
    Since there is a smarthost involved, it would make sense to investigate there, or is the mail not even reaching the smarthost?

    That's what i am trying to understand if it's actually reaching or not. I think it is since the smarthost is replying up until we send it the Data message followed by the "." and than it doesn't reply. ( correct me if i am wrong please since i provided the log from queue manager ) Till today i am still trying to contact godaddy regarding this issue and asking if they can check a log from the smarthost side or something but they keep treating the smarthost as a third party and i should be checking it out and no them
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  • TRT
    Update: finally after 3 days of suffering I was able to contact a VPS support team with GoDaddy using a phone number and not the Chat or regular phone number. The agent was able to verify that it was not Exim or smarthost related but it was something to do with network script file (under sysconfig network scripts) he had to add a line there and everything seems to work correctly now. Just posting the update here in case someone faces the same problem with GoDaddy in the future. Thanks
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    I'm glad they were able to get that fixed for you!
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  • Christian72arg
    Update: finally after 3 days of suffering I was able to contact a VPS support team with GoDaddy using a phone number and not the Chat or regular phone number. The agent was able to verify that it was not Exim or smarthost related but it was something to do with network script file (under sysconfig network scripts) he had to add a line there and everything seems to work correctly now. Just posting the update here in case someone faces the same problem with GoDaddy in the future. Thanks

    Hello TRT I am having exactly the same timeout problem with the same relay for weeks and Godaddy does not give me any help. Now I'm trying to get cPanel support (always much kinder) to help me solve it, and I wanted to ask you if you could tell me more precisely what the solution consisted of. Thank you so much
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    @Christian72arg - have you already submitted a ticket to our support team?
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  • Christian72arg
    Hello, yes Im talking with cpanel supoort (95102890) from last week. Now they will try to remove and reinstall exim. Yesterday I did a Reset from the option included in Exim on the new VPS, and re-entered the dedrelay.secureserver.net relay in the Smarthost option. With this modification, what I have achieved is that in the Trace option (cPanel -> Forwards) it now shows that it says "lookuphost via dedrelay.secureserver.net" (previously it said "untraceable route to local delivery"). I'm excited about the change but now the messages always stay in the Queue anyway. I don't see "timeout" error messages but they still haven't been sent, and now the messages generated in scripts aren't sent either. (Previously, although forwards failed, sending direct scripts to hotmail worked). Now everyone stays in the Queue.
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  • Christian72arg
    The cpanel people told me that will elevate to level 3 for support because the reinstall didnt solve. I like to know what was the solution commented in this post, maybe is a simple fix.
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    I'm not sure since that solution was on the GoDaddy side of things, so it seems these may be separate issues. I'm following along with that ticket now.
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    @Christian72arg - our team was able to confirm the problem is with the connection to the smarthost, and not an issue with the cPanel tools. I do see we're still trying to help in the ticket, but out assistance will likely be a bit limited at this point.
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  • Christian72arg
    Thanks for your time. I find it hard to believe that it is a problem with the relay. Godaddy offers minimal support, but on the one hand they have confirmed that the relay works fine, and also if it was the relay there should be hundreds of customers complaining about the same problem. On the other hand, if you have access to my ticket in private, I tell them there that I tried a different relay (also owned by Godaddy), and the same problems continue. But also initially only the Forward accounts did not work, and the emails sent from PHP worked well. But now after reinstalling Exim and/or resetting its configuration (and obviously entering the two relays to test, the original one and a different one now), emails sent in PHP don't work either. This cannot be the result of a relay failure because initially the messages from PHP worked fine. That is why I am asking you about any other particularity in Exim/WHM that may be causing this inconvenience. At first, the coincidence with the user who opened this post caught my attention since I also migrated from a Centos 7 server to another Almalinux 8 (different versions of cPanel because Centos was deprecated) using the WHM Transfer Tool option and since then first Forward emails didn't work, and now after reinstalling Exim and even trying another relay, php emails don't work either. Thank you
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    It would be best to include all these details in the ticket, as we have direct access to the server there.
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  • Christian72arg
    Yes, In my last response within the ticket I expressed a summary of everything done from the beginning, mentioning what was commented here as well. Thank you
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  • TRT
    Hello TRT I am having exactly the same timeout problem with the same relay for weeks and Godaddy does not give me any help. Now I'm trying to get cPanel support (always much kinder) to help me solve it, and I wanted to ask you if you could tell me more precisely what the solution consisted of. Thank you so much

    Hi, I solved it by contacting the VPS support team using the phone number you can find under the manage server settings. ( the page where you can stop, restart, rebuild your server) ... if you scroll down you will see a phone number under support. not sure if all numbers are the same or it depends on where your server is hosted. The first time I called the guy on the phone wasn't much help but luckily the second time I got someone who knew what to do. I am not sure what he edited since he did it from his side but he mentioned something with a misconfiguration in the sysconfig network script maybe you can call that number and ask them to check it out, but be sure to call that number and not regular GoDaddy support number. Best of luck
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  • McSwizzleStix
    What would be wonderful here, is if someone would put the ACTUAL fix in the forum.
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    @McSwizzleStix - I'm not sure there is one end-all, be-all fix. If you're having similar queue issues, it would likely be best to create a new thread with as much detail as you can provide so we can check it out!
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  • Christian72arg
    In my case it resolved itself. I reset the Exim configuration again, entered the problematic relay as a smart host, and waited a few days until the contract period for that VPS expired before opening another VPS and migrating (with no hope that it would be resolved). And during those days of waiting, messages progressively began to arrive from forward email accounts.
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  • kcroy
    I am experiencing this issue. It first began occurring in June of this year, and was the reason I moved my critical mail accounts off of godaddy servers. If you wish to read my drama, you can do so here: verizon@mydomain.com is the address I use for dealing with verizon. So I am using GoDaddy still to handle my forwards for non-critical accounts. Also for "Friends and Family" websites that I host. The symptom is mail getting stuck in queue, and when manually delivering mail, the SMTP connection hangs. (note: sometimes when I cancel out of this hang, i can no longer delete or make changes in the queue as the process is locked. I then do a quick restart of the exim service ) There are multiple issues that I am facing that lead to Frozen and Queued status for outgoing email. 1) Their internal spam tools are blocking my outgoing email. GoDaddy has a 'machine-learning' program that checks for outgoing spam. If you call the VPS support number, they have an internal proprietary tool they use to look at this. They can see errors such as "Bad Subject" "Bad Domain" "Spam like content". If you have a forward set up, and that email receives spam, your account then forwards it to the new account. This gets flagged as if you are sending spam. They said my account was showing tons of "Bad Subject" "Spam like content" errors. I am not clear what happens to those email, if they are discarded, sit in queue for re-delivery or what. At least some of these ( super obvious spam ) became "Frozen" in the queue. I believe you get a generic "your email could not be delivered, will be retried" message and then after a few days you get "cannot be delivered", which stack up in the queue. It would be helpful if they provided a reason when email are blocked like this. If you receive false flags, you can self-report these email here: checkspam.godaddy.com 2) AlmaLinux 8 baud rate issue I was informed there is a known issue, and a directive came down that it was necessary to slightly reduce the baud rate. The example was 1500 to 1480. This makes no sense to me, I am just passing this information along. Support indicated that this had not been done on my box. I do not know if these steps will resolve the core issue of mail getting stuck in the Queue. By fixing #1, I might never find out if #2 is an issue.
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  • kcroy
    After a week, I am still encountering issues, and am contacting cpanel support.
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    Can you post the ticket number here so I can follow along?
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  • kcroy
    Can you post the ticket number here so I can follow along?

    #95150026 Like previous times I have experienced this problem, the issue resolves itself after a few weeks. Support was unable to replicate. Based on previous error messages they wrote: [QUOTE]All of your email is routing through a remote SmartHost, which is currently closing the connection in response to the data that is being provided. Unfortunately, this is the only error logged with this transaction. I have attempted to review the server, however, I see no immediate misconfiguration on the server in sending normal emails. As such, there is nothing here that would have caused this message to be rejected in this way.
    However, they did have this to add: [QUOTE] I reviewed the forum post you provided once again, and you mentioned this occurring with forwarding message. One item I did observe was that you currently have Sender Rewrite Scheme (SRS) support enabled: [server]cPs# grep -i srs /etc/exim.conf.localopts srs=1 However, you have no configuration for your SmartHost to use SRS: @ROUTERSTART@ send_to_smart_host: driver = manualroute route_list = !+local_domains dedrelay.secureserver.net transport = dkim_remote_smtp
    I will address this, and see if issue occurs in the future. My personal thoughts are that GoDaddy was flagging my posts/mail server for spam, however GoDaddy support provides conflicting answers on if this is true. One CSR pointed out that I was flagged for spam, the official "Spam" team said I was not, and the second CSR said that there were no records of my mail server ever connecting to their relay server. And that it isn't their job to provide support for email issues.
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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator
    @kcroy - thanks for sharing the results!
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  • Unnamed User

    cPRex This issue is occurring again today, and am opening a new ticket. Hopefully cpanel can replicate this and provide assistance.

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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator

    Can you post the ticket number here so I can follow along?

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  • Unnamed User

    95171138 thank you!

     

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