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Domain has exceeded the maximum allowed defers and failures per hour (5/5 (100%))

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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator

    Hey there!  Thanks for sharing this - I've submitted this as a feature request over at features.cpanel.net and I'll bring it up with the team during our next meeting this coming Friday.  I'll be sure to post once I have more details and let you know what we've decided!

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  • eBD Hosting

    Hey! Much appreciated. Looking forward to the post. Thanks.

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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator

    Update - I spoke with the teams about this and this is not a behavior we want to change at this time.  From a security standpoint we are concerned that if one account is compromised it is highly possible that another account on the same domain is compromised as well, so allowing other messages to continue to send could lead to further restrictions on the domain's email reputation.

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  • eBD Hosting

    Hello,

    From a security standpoint, this can be controlled at the account level.

    If one account is compromised, block it. If another account is also compromised, block it as well. If all accounts are compromised, block them all; however, this should be done at the account level, not the domain level.

    Please see the screenshot of an example from another hosting panel that lets us control these settings at the account level. Even in cases of blocking, the system accurately identifies the problem account and blocks it while also sending an alert to admins to update the password.

    Thanks

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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator

    eBD Hosting - you are 100% correct that it *can* be controlled, this isn't something we've had any other requests for on our side so it's not going to be something we will implement.  

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  • EalingBadger

    "...this isn't something we've had any other requests for..."

    Well you have now!

    I am 100% with eBD Hosting on this - including their suggested remedy.

    And whilst you are at it perhaps you could reverse the breaking change that stopped perfectly valid email addresses containing the '#' character that had been used entirely satisfactorily for years from working as well please.

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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator

    I'll bring this up with the team during our features meeting next week!

    EalingBadger - can you get me more details about the # character issues you're having?

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  • EalingBadger

    The explanation of the problem is here:

    https://support.cpanel.net/hc/en-us/articles/36624555573655-Email-forwarders-created-with-a-symbol-in-the-localpart-are-unable-to-be-traced-via-the-forwarders-interface

    It is difficult to overstate the pain that this unnecessary breaking change (introduced in a recent cpanel update) has and continues to cause us.

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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator

    I've added your feedback to the case!  Our weekly features meeting is tomorrow, so I should have some data to share with you early next week.

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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator

    I spoke with the team about this again just now and they confirmed this still isn't something we want to change as we want to block the entire domain when these are triggered.  

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  • EalingBadger

    With respect cPRex, this is ridiculous.

    Taking out a whole domain in this context is far too broad-brush of an approach.

    It is a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator

    You could also disable the feature completely if you don't want to risk an account getting blocked, although that opens up a different set of issues.

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  • EalingBadger

    Thanks, but that's not really a solution.

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  • cPRex Jurassic Moderator

    I don't disagree, but at this point it's all I've got to offer.

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