102 EDGE Version new whm theme
Hi
When I installed the 102 edge version for testing, I saw that the whm theme changed and I didn't like it at all.
Will we be able to use the old whm theme in version 102?
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I have the feeling that cpanel has a very reduced team, if you notice this in the delay of support calls, I have some that took more than 8 hours for the first communication, that being (priority) I just can't understand how plesk, which is smaller than cpanel and belongs to the same group, manages to develop so much faster than cpanel. Plesk's support is much faster and doesn't even compare, apart from the fact that it even has chat. I feel like cpanel is ignoring all feedback about jupiter and doing its own thing. Regarding the designer, the icons are very poorly made and with an aesthetic that was made in a hurry. Jupiter's structure has the same bugs as the previous paper version, so I have the question they didn't do anything from scratch, they just repaired it and put a bandage saying it's something new. Cpanel loses more and more customers every day, and they insist on ignoring the community, after I saw OVH stop recommending cpanel I already saw that from now on it's just downhill. 0 -
I'm sorry to hear about the delay in the support request response. A priority ticket should not be sitting for that long before a reply, so if you have a specific ticket number I'd be happy to look into that particular issue for you. I do see that OVH still has many cPanel offerings, as well as a specific guide for developing VPS servers with cPanel: While we can't always make every change that users want, I thought this thread was a good example of us reacting directly to customer requests, as many things had been modified or added (or removed) directly according to user feedback. 0 -
While we can't always make every change that users want, I thought this thread was a good example of us reacting directly to customer requests, as many things had been modified or added (or removed) directly according to user feedback.
Okay @cPRex, you're right, cPanel can't always do what users want. BUT did the users want this cruel, horrible, really derogatory, eye-cancer causing new design? Your old design was the BEST in the whole industry! It made you big. I hope for you that it will not make you small. Because it's just been taken away from us. Shame on the person(s) with the idea for the new design. For real ! I no longer get new cPanel licenses. It's all over. Time for competition has come.0 -
Come on cPanel! Give us back the old Design!! 0 -
BUT did the users want this cruel, horrible, really derogatory, eye-cancer causing new design? Your old design was the BEST in the whole industry! It made you big. I hope for you that it will not make you small.
While I REALLY don't like the new design, I do feel that this post is touching if not crossing the line. The new design is NOT "eye cancer", as anyone who has had eye cancer will attest. The new design IS really, really weak from a logistical and implementation (and style and design) point of view. The design is not really "Cruel" as anyone whose suffered torture in guantanamo or at the hands of US troops amongst other "free radicals" may attest, but yes the whole implementation of this change by CPanel has been very, VERY poorly thought through and seems far too early to be in release tier. But this is almost certainly not Rex's fault and probably not something that can be blamed on anyone at CPanel who touches these forums. What we as the customer base need to do is ensure that constructive criticsm is fed back to those who did make this decision, Thanks.0 -
What we as the customer base need to do is ensure that constructive criticsm
Ahh.... I'll give you constructive criticism I am using superlative terms, as you have well recognized. And one more thing about "Cruel": I hope you don't get ideas like "war crimes", "shameful deeds", "Iraq war". You better be factual. Because you use the argumentation technique of exemplary objectification to neutralize mine again. Nevertheless: it is and remains a subjectively felt wrong decision by cPanel, a backward development in terms of design. it bothers a lot of people working with cPanel. Everyone can see this on the forums. Even very many. Again" it ruins your eyes, your mood ===== .... if you get a thick blue bar printed on the left side, with white writing. and if you use a rescue via dark mode reader - not even that can handle it and rewrite the colors. cPanel Designer: Bad job! Never (!!!) change a running system. DO NOT TOUCH IT! The customer base ================== .... probably already submitted tons of information via the WHM feedback form, my friend. A real outcry immediately went through the cPanel world. I'm really a big fan of cPanel, the company founder that changed the world behind the server scenes. Otherwise, I wouldn't care. I grew up with it. But all the reactions - ===================== .... did it bring anything? no. The company is not responding (as some here before me have written in the post) with a solution FOR ALL. Design selection Old/New is a compromise that satisfies ALL. Why doesn't that get through to the right decision-makers and when it does, why does it take so long for THE RIGHT PERSON to say: We'll just do it! And yes, you are right - =================== ....it makes no sense to burden the competent (!!) staff here in the forum with it. These cannot change anything. and one or the other cPanel employee will certainly like the old design with the classic colors like light grey, grey, dark grey, white, and orange much better.0 -
@cetiner, please don't misconstrue my message; I do totally agree with your core views about the (many, various) issue and problems with Jupitar theme, but I doesn't agree that throwing around superlative terms helps develop or progress resolution to the issues we can see . Infact using superlative terms can be counterproductive as both the people who do enjoy the new theme may disqualify your legitimate core view because the superlative terms used are so easy to counter. Thank you. 0 -
@cetiner, please don't misconstrue my message; I do totally agree with your core views about the (many, various) issue and problems with Jupitar theme, but I doesn't agree that throwing around superlative terms helps develop or progress resolution to the issues we can see . Infact using superlative terms can be counterproductive as both the people who do enjoy the new theme may disqualify your legitimate core view because the superlative terms used are so easy to counter. Thank you.
But you don't give up either :-D0 -
@cetiner - besides "bring back the old theme" what would you like to see changed? 0 -
While I REALLY don't like the new design, I do feel that this post is touching if not crossing the line. The new design is NOT "eye cancer"
I'm sorry but I agree that the new design is simply eye cancer. I have blue eyes and blue eyes are specifically more sensible to light colours of which Jupiter has a lot of in ton of bad supplies. I'd really wish Cpanel would take in effect this side of the problem too. There are people sensible to bright colours and we need something more darker, not as dark as the Papern Lantern Dark Theme but close to it.0 -
@cetiner - besides "bring back the old theme" what would you like to see changed?
I would like to see the new theme and WHM interface have it's color scheme changed to the same one that was used in the previous design. Everything that has been said is true... this design is an eye sore for sure... right down to the color scheme0 -
I know the team is aware of the darkness/contrast issues in the left sidebar. There are various options they are exploring internally that would help fix this, or possibly allow users to choose their own settings, but it hasn't been officially decided what the plan will be so I don't have anything to share just yet. 0 -
I know the team is aware of the darkness/contrast issues in the left sidebar. There are various options they are exploring internally that would help fix this, or possibly allow users to choose their own settings, but it hasn't been officially decided what the plan will be so I don't have anything to share just yet.
Is the old design being considered? The people's desires are being voiced. Is the old design or color scheme offensive to cPanel in some way?0 -
@hostmaster@visionfriendly - "the old design" in regards to what, the color palette? 0 -
@cetiner - besides "bring back the old theme" what would you like to see changed?
I think he/she wants the old theme look and feel back... not specifically the old theme0 -
@hostmaster@visionfriendly - "the old design" in regards to what, the color palette?
I suppose I would like to further expand the question. Is the old color scheme being considered for WHM? Is the cPanel level Paper Lantern theme design being considered for recreation in some way or as a reference for a future design? The reason I ask is that I think the main issue is most people are extremely dissatisfied with the design changes in both WHM and cPanel account level areas. Since you already had a solution that people really liked and the industry happily adopted, it would make sense to reference those successful designs or attempt to reincorporate them in some way, and indeed this seems to be what people are calling for.0 -
[QUOTE="hostmaster@visionfriendly, post: 2932233, member: 1069577"> Is the old color scheme being considered for WHM?
I'm not sure on this one - we're considering various options, including providing some color choices to end-users. [QUOTE="hostmaster@visionfriendly, post: 2932233, member: 1069577"> Is the cPanel level Paper Lantern theme design being considered for recreation in some way or as a reference for a future design?
Not really - we're moving away from that as much as we can. It's important to note that feedback is an odd thing. In general, reviews of any product or overwhelmingly negative, as people that have a good experience, or even just a "functional" experience, don't feel the need to reach out. They found a product, the product did what the user wanted, and they moved on with their life. It's also worth noting that the now-beloved Paper Lantern/X3 faced extremely similar backlash when it was released many years ago. Everyone was comfortable with X and had custom skins and why aren't those compatible - basically word-for-word what we're seeing with Jupiter now. While there's definitely been negative feedback around Jupiter, there were also many complaints for years about Paper Lantern/X3. The main two being "it looks old" and "it's a massive sea of icons that confuses users." Is Jupiter where we want it to be yet? After all the feedback we've received, definitely not, but it's going to be getting continual updates just like the other themes did over their very long run.0 -
Why are you moving away from that as much as you can? Finally, based on the way you described how cPanel views feedback... I am far less likely to provide it. You shouldn't ignore the people giving feedback based on voices that are not speaking. I'm inclined to just delete this account and move on, this is clearly a waste of time. 0 -
I'm sorry the feedback portion came across that way, as it should have been the opposite. There are many examples throughout this thread where both myself and the developers have directly taken provided feedback and applied it to Jupiter. I'm just saying that everyone needs to be cautious when reviewing public feedback as it always tends toward the negative side. 0 -
I'm not sure on this one - we're considering various options, including providing some color choices to end-users.
well, it is a fact that big companies like the case of Google or Apple are expending a lot of money to study such things even putting cables in the heads of their guinea pigs. They are quite conservative in their design and are preserving the colours in icons like many years ago. Minimalist designs are very nice for a website but no really useful for a more intensive use. It can become more uncomfortable and slower. Just a view...0 -
Is there any new news on fixing/changing the design as people are calling for? 0 -
The main mistake of cpanel is not providing from the beginning an open source code for personalizations. My case is one since I worked for years on my own paper-based layout. The change is understandable, but a lack of COMPLETE documentation is an aggression for those who work to generate their own interfaces. As much as we will discuss in this topic we are not talking about days or even a small company, we are talking about months accumulating complaints and ridiculous changes. Honestly my feeling is that there is only 1 person working on cpanel dedicating themselves at most 1 hour a day. There are no consistent changes since Jupiter's release that justify the months it takes to implement. A team with 2 people would produce a lot more than what we see on Jupiter. All the feedbacks I've seen are just cornflakes in the eyes of cpanel, I know it's not anyone's fault here on the forum. However, it is noticeable in groups where the suppliers are dissatisfied with Jupiter for the final customer. Whm didn't affect clients as much as cpanel. I'm no expert in cpanel but I've been using it since 2010, today luckily I have 70 active servers with cpanel, for cpanel this is nothing however, when you join several others like me or even with just one server, this lack of empathy between cpanel and its clients is remarkable. At the same time that cpanel owns plesk, it manages to lose in all the basics to a smaller company of the same group Support / news / productivity, without comparisons plesk humiliates cpanel, in my opinion plesk only sins with the graphic interface. Since cpanel started its price swing, I've been seeing that other panels are evolving and with a little more they will reach cpanel a beautiful example of this is DA,Cyberpanel/AApanel/plesk I don't like its interface but its evolution is remarkable in the last years I can't see this same evolution on the part of cpanel, in the last 5 years. It took several years for cpanel to implement nginx as native, and enginatron already existed. This is another outburst that I see from the community itself, more than they say that they are paying attention to feedbacks and that they are working, all the community feels is that cpanel will only increase its values. Increases are understandable if accompanied by improvements, and so far nothing has justified this increase. Just more spending and no nine. Love ends one day and my love for cpanel is fading with each passing month and nothing is done. At some point, a worthy competitor will appear and know that I will be one of those who will say goodbye. 0 -
@vf-hostmaster - what specifics were you looking for? 0 -
@vf-hostmaster - what specifics were you looking for?
The WHM theme look and feel and the various visual shortcomings that have already been described many times.0 -
Thanks for that - I don't have much to add besides what has already been said. I do know we are working on adding a dark mode at some point, and you can customize the sidebar color for cPanel users, but the same level of customization support for WHM is not planned that I am aware of. 0 -
Thanks for that - I don't have much to add besides what has already been said. I do know we are working on adding a dark mode at some point, and you can customize the sidebar color for cPanel users, but the same level of customization support for WHM is not planned that I am aware of.
ouch.... hopes dashed. I really thought you guys were going to work on the WHM complaints and not isolate the solutions to just cPanel users0 -
While it would be good if they could work on WHM complaints at least they have worked on the most important issues. 0 -
@bjdea1 that was our intent so thank you for saying that. There will always be more to do than time will allow for so we try our best to move from priority to priority as best we can. Presently, my colleagues and I are concerned that the :2083 (cpanel) interface is being neglected and many of the improvements we've made to :2087 (whm) can be brought over to keep these interfaces in sync and serve those end-users. Please don't be surprised if we shift our attention away from WHM for a few releases both 0 -
We are now on 104.0.5 (this was started in 102), but I can't find a reference to this anywhere else, and so it might as well go here? After a recent update the List Accounts table now show some accounts' row with greater height then the rest. I see no reason for it int eh table data and nothing wraps. It's not a big deal, but is annoying. (I think the cause is on cell is being triggered by something to set a greater height, but I couldn't find it easily.) Is anyone else seeing this? 0 -
@PeteS - if you scroll to the right, is there a block of text in the "Upgrade Opportunities" column that's making that row larger? 0
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