102 EDGE Version new whm theme
Hi
When I installed the 102 edge version for testing, I saw that the whm theme changed and I didn't like it at all.
Will we be able to use the old whm theme in version 102?
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1. WHM's left nav menu should be a percentage width and not fixed-width. On high res displays the left nav-menu is wrapped (longer menu items) whereas there is plenty of wasted space in right-panel 2. WHM's left nav menu should be collapsable, especially on monitors with a resolution of less than 1280 [cpedge] Configure cPanel Cron Jobs - 102.0.8 (1).png">76285less than 1280 0 -
1. WHM's left nav menu should be a percentage width and not fixed-width. On high res displays the left nav-menu is wrapped (longer menu items) whereas there is plenty of wasted space in right-panel 2. WHM's left nav menu should be collapsable, especially on monitors with a resolution of less than 1280 76285less than 1280
I totally agree with you. if they made the text size smaller, then it will look so much better and make it easier for us on our eyes. Ive been complaining since they started about that left menu.. who know why there so stuck on that size and paralyzing white text color ?0 -
@IndicHosts.net - I let the team know and they are going to see if collapsible is an option. At this time there isn't a way to do a percentage-based menu according to the team. 0 -
@IndicHosts.net - I let the team know and they are going to see if collapsible is an option. At this time there isn't a way to do a percentage-based menu according to the team.
CSS example:#navColumn { width: 15vw /* 15% screen width */ min-width: 200px; max-width: 500px; }0 -
I'm not saying it's not possible, I'm saying there are other non-coding reasons why they aren't exploring a percentage-based option. 0 -
@Spirogg - as far as the font color, we're exploring some options that would take care of that. I can't share exactly what those options are yet, but we're testing some things. If anything happens with it, it would be until 106 or 108 though. 0 -
CSS example:
#navColumn { width: 15vw /* 15% screen width */ min-width: 200px; max-width: 500px; }
This works to me actually.cp-layout-main-menu { min-width: clamp(240px,14.8vw,320px); max-width: clamp(360px,14.8vw,410px); border-right: 0; z-index: 1032; background-color: var(--cp-primary-color); position: fixed; top: 0; bottom: 0; left: 0; overflow: hidden; }
But then again I have no idea why this doesn't work for the UI team0 -
Here's another update from the UI team: v102.0.7 was released last night on our EDGE tier and its got quite a few changes in it from our list of projects above. Please spend a moment and install it on a non-production box to check out. "Customize Top Tools in WHM" has been fully rescheduled to v106, which begins development later this month. It will arrive with APIs and UI changes all at once, rather than piecemeal, on our EDGE tier in June/July of this year. That's it in terms of updating expectations. All of the other items in my bulleted list from March 2 are available now in v102.0.7!
Aaaaaand with that update even more stuff got broken, stuff that was working just fine previously, it seems... Fonts all over the place in a lot of sub-sections are now HUGE, text / domain names are being cut off in lists due to some new CSS styling of sorts with max-width parameter... Ugh. Can you guys TEST these things before you push them out? Or is this an intended look and feel now? Because if so, how do we go back to smaller fonts and tighter looking interface? Or at least give us a single CSS textarea field where we can customize/override the current admin theme CSS with our own or something... because this is just getting silly now, for no reason whatsoever! You literally tried to fix something that wasn't broke to begin with.0 -
I'm gonna push back a little here, because at this point you guys should know that we are indeed listening to feedback with the changes we've made to v102. Comments like "stuff got broken" just doesn't help anyone. Post a screenshot. Tell me the exact page in WHM or cPanel. Show some errors from a log. Help me help you. 0 -
I have never seen a theme uglier than this, literally, it looks straight from 2001, there is no UI, too dark, fonts to big, not easy to navigate, removing the search/filter box making things harder, I used to do some staff in seconds and now I have to look and figure out. 0 -
1) No way to turn off the LHS menu. 2) No way to have all the RHS sections automatically expanded. 3) Flat two tone faint grey and orange icons all look almost exactly alike. VERY difficult to differentiate. 4) No way to eliminate or customize "Top Tools". Prefer to get rid of "Top Tools" and just have the stats info in the "Server Menu" pop up. I cannot express how difficult the new grey/orange icon layout is for visually limited users. You MUST provide us with a way to use custom icons. I can hardly believe that anyone would actually think that these icons are better than what was available in prior releases. They are a HUGE step backwards. 0 -
I'm about 99% sure the left menu being always visible is going to happen. Not sure about the tiny logos in that menu though.
WHY? You are telling the users that do not like the LHS menu and don't use it "tough luck", there will be no way to turn it off? How does it hurt people who do want to see it to have things set up so that thsoe of us who don't want it can have teh capability to disble it? Makes no sense at all to me.0 -
One more thing. Please provide a way to toggle between the collapsed drop down list for the sections in the RHS of WHM - AND - icons as in the previous version. I do not want to have to scroll down several pages to find what I am looking for when I can eaasily see all of my options on one screen in an icon navigation layout. The drop down list a far more cumbersome layout. 0 -
As a SysAdmin the latest version of WHM v102.0.8 is very time-consuming to use, and extremely tiring on the eyes. It has become apparent that cPanel/WHM has fallen prey to the sheep mentality that says things (GUI's) have to look modern opting for neatly drawn line icons and removing the left hand menu ones altogether! Now the left hand menu has no search box making it near impossible to find what one is looking for, and large fonts mean more scrolling due to spanning several lines. Usability is everything to me and my time is most valuable, I now find myself once again looking for an alternative to WHM/cPanel. My final passing thought is that a popular option might be to skin the GUI so that users can customize the (CSS) with their preferences, after all we all have our own quirks and individual requirements :) 0 -
@PCZero - we more explore the option of making the left-hand menu collapsible. We're working on the "Top Tools" issue you mention. We're also looking into more customizable icon options in the future. 0 -
Please just bring back Paper Lantern. We have gone through every version up to 102.0.8 and nothing is sufficient. Customers complain and think something is wrong, it's so bleak. We have acutally never had UI complaints until Glass and Jupiter was released. Also, in WHM, odd things like searching for "SSL" does not return the menu item "Manage Service SSL Certificates". Not enough room to show all results, omit them, is not a good thing. I can no longer see the load on all pages either. Very annoying. 0 -
Please just bring back Paper Lantern. We have gone through every version up to 102.0.8 and nothing is sufficient. Customers complain and think something is wrong, it's so bleak. We have acutally never had UI complaints until Glass and Jupiter was released.
I totally agree with the above user. The new UI is simply terrible, horrendous, hideous. I can't believe someone actually came up with this design and tought for even one second: hey, this looks cool. Well It doesn't. If the dev team wants to look at it fine, let them watch it but at least gives us the option to change back to the old theme.0 -
I totally agree with the above user. The new UI is simply terrible, horrendous, hideous. I can't believe someone actually came up with this design and tought for even one second: hey, this looks cool. Well It doesn't. If the dev team wants to look at it fine, let them watch it but at least gives us the option to change back to the old theme.
I agree. It's hideous and cumbersome. It's a huge step backwards, and no amount of CSS or tinkering is going to fix that. They replaced a perfectly good theme with this garbage. Whomever is on the team that was responsible for this garbage should be fired.0 -
My constructive criticism is that this new theme is a horrible step whether you call it forwards or backwards depends on your perspective. Either way, the new UX is awful, not nearly as friendly to operate, and the loss of the server load stats from the top nav will be sorely missed by me. If the idea was to make it "minimal" that's fine, but at least allow for people who want the older more functional interface to switch back to it. Forced UX upgrades is some crap that companies like facebook implement, which makes them loved or hated... it removes the middle. 0 -
I have been working with WHM/cPanel for 17+ years now. One guy already suggested - hire proper designer - this would say everything about new theme. WHM theme is terrible - hire proper UX designer. Just a designer with a taste and understanding of a web-UI concept. Huge spaces, font family, size, icons, just looks like all this was developed by random beginners, who never talk to each other. Way more scrolling, many pages have inadequate spaces, sections and items in the left menu miss dividers, impossible to see where you are, missing menu search (WHY??), other inner pages are still using old theme, which basically looks terrible - looks so much as "half baked product", like a demo version of some product. You should seriously talk to UX team. I am not a designer, but I would say, that using raw bootstrap-css would give better results! WHM is not a tool to impress anyone with a design - it's technical part, it should be system administrator, tech-geek friendly. We do not need "modern" look - we need a tool that we can efficiently use. Unfortunately my experience show, that cPanel hardly listen for suggestions from end-users (I mean hosting companies). Many years ago "feature request" feature was introduced and we all hoped it would let us have a communication channel with developers, analysts. In reality - very important and needed features, that were "requested" for years never got developed and some even got recently closed as not-planned! There should be a community-driven board of system administrators and business owners, who should have a saying on cPanel development - we are paying for this - tell me - why should we suffer and not get what we really need? C'mon - many of us would be happy to help to make cPanel better, just listen to us. There are so many things you could and should make and improve, yet instead we keep getting changes, that makes no sense, not much needed or which were not properly tested. Such change requires change of the whole paradigma. 0 -
Just give us the option to use the old theme. Why is that such a big deal???? 0 -
You know, we find Jupiter is fine. It's not great, but it honestly does not live up to the horrible picture that gets painted about it. It's also a work in progress so thats something to consider. I will share the same thing here I did in the Jupiter feedback survey: cPanel project management has done itself no favors by not implementing more of a "pre-alpha" engagement process for Jupiter that included WHM users more directly in discovery. Lacking that, they have been clearly caught off guard by much of the reaction. I don't think any of this is fair to the actual users of the product or, honestly, to the individual team members at cPanel who are working really hard to be responsive to specific development demands that are being placed in front of them. I would like to think this would be a learning experience - but cPanel repeatedly puts out half baked tools that either pale to third party equivalents they are ostensibly meant to emulate, or cause as many issues as they solve. Meanwhile very highly-requested, substantive features languish for years untouched. It's a frustrating state of affairs, but not a new one. Other contributors have made a similar observation, but I strongly suspect cPanel is simply trying to do too much with too few staff. 0 -
Hello, the cpanel of my servers has been updated to the cPanel & WHM v102.0.8 (STANDARD) version, now I don't like the new whm interface, how can I go back to the old interface version? Thank you 0 -
...how can I go back to the old interface version?
You can't go back!0 -
Can't I go back? but why the cpanel in recent years has only gotten worse? starting from the crazy prices, now even an interface that sucks, it is not possible to work this way. The directadmin interface is significantly superior. 0 -
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We are using Direct Admin for all our new servers and I can assure you that it works very well, also for Reseller, I recommend you to try it. 0 -
Let's keep this discussion focused on cPanel products. If we stray too much into competing products I'll have to remove the posts. 0 -
Let's keep this discussion focused on cPanel products. If we stray too much into competing products I'll have to remove the posts.
@cPRex I agree No Offense to you guys but the correct thing would be to start there own PM discussion about that privately. This is a cPanel Forum in that we should stay on topic about cPanel WHM just my 2 cents PS as much as I have complained as well, but also testing and bringing up valid points on what needs changing or could use improvements.. as I have posted some bugs too and they fix them..... in Progress things are getting fixed0 -
Of course this is correct, I will only talk about cpanel and I hope that we can go back with the interface of whm because the new one is really bad. 0
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